"A city runs its police department and other services; therefore, if there is so much 'systemic racism' in these organizations, why hasn't it been corrected over so many years under Democratic leaders?But I'm more interested in this conclusion:
"Why aren't these cities garden spots of racial tolerance, understanding, and virtue?"
There have been no answers.
Unfortunately, in too many cases when people say they want an open and honest discussion about race in America, what they mean is they want an open and honest discussion only about what they say is wrong with people who aren’t them.I've been reading articles calling for "police reform" - whatever that means - and "a conversation on race" - whatever that means - and calls to "vote!" - for what we don't know. This opinion piece from Time magazine is typical:
When people talk about the need to deal with systemic racism, if they’re not willing to talk about the systems run – often for generations by the political party or politicians they support – they aren’t interested in an open and honest conversation; instead, they want only to use the issue as a club against people who aren’t them.
If that’s the case, we’re condemned to never get off this tragedy of a merry-go-round.
One thing though: don’t ask me how to start. That’s part of your work, too. The answers are all around you if you are willing to look and listen.Can we have a hint? No? The obvious and critical solutions are always just out of reach, unfathomable to America's first black President, the representative to Minnesota's 5th district, or Minnesota's district attorney.
Extra - Red State: "Bringing up these details — acknowledging who has been in charge in Minnesota, noting the black-on-white crime therein, seeing minority cops are shooting minorities — tends to raise the ire of those outraged and calling for change. This presents a problem to one of their central demands. We hear a lot of calls to have a serious dialogue about race in this country, but they resist when these facts are brought into the dialogue. If we are to have a serious discussion about race, then it has to be an honest discussion."
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I've been reading articles calling for "police reform" - whatever that means
Yes, whatevs. One of hundreds and hundreds of such videos posted this week:
https://twitter.com/davidbegnaud/status/1268716877355810818
Here's the official incident report as released by the Buffalo Police Dept.:
"Buffalo Police say today's protest activity in Niagara Square has ended. ...One person was injured when he tripped & fell."
Is it unfair of me to ask per a point in the OP, since every single elected city official in Buffalo is a Democrat, and since Buffalo has had an unbroken string of Democrat mayors since the mid 1960s, why Buffalo is not, as a result, a garden spot where your highlighted police action would simply not occur?
As if I have to emphasize this again: what's your solution? Can't anybody lay it out in a lucid manner?
Go ahead and defund the cops. It worked out great in Baltimore.
Dear sweet Chester--
Because it's a Blue Wall cop thing. Which goes back much much further than the mid 1960s.
News reports today say that one of the four cops who murdered George Floyd was a rookie on his third-ever police shift, and objected to the abuse before it became fatal, but was ordered by the senior cops to shut up. It would have been a useful instructional lesson for the young man, if Floyd's weak trachea hadn't gone and spoiled it.
Perhaps you've noticed repeated acts of unlawful and unwarranted police brutality captured on video this week in New York City... which despite the police rioting is also a liberal Shangri-La and the safest big city in America.
But Democrats. If you turn the volume up on the video where the 75-year-old man's head gets smashed in for no reason, and the cops walk past his inert bleeding body to harass someone else, you can hear the Buffalo officer/felon whisper, "Legal status now for DACA Dreamers."
Eric--
One obvious step towards a solution is to remove the layers and layers of institutionalized legal absolution for violent policemen that exists for no other job in America, and to put teeth and accountability into Civilian Complaint boards. Deciding between the pain of curtailing police brutality or the delight of reducing union power would be something of an existential dilemma for conservatives.
Brendan O'Hare:
"Are there any other professions that currently have more than one viral video where they were filmed pushing old men to the ground?"
(Other than Tom Brady getting sacked.)
So there's a mysterious Blue Wall cop thing. And Democrats in 50 years of running the show in Buffalo can't remedy it? How does that work, exactly?
Is it related in any way to them requiring the support of the public sector unions to get elected?
As has been pointed out by several libertarian sites (like Reason), the police reforms being called for now have been called for by libertarians for years. So welcome to the party.
For example:
"There are plenty of police reforms that could be enacted from a libertarian perspective that would improve matters. Qualified immunity reform is libertarian. Holding police accountable for misbehavior is libertarian. Reducing the power of police unions is libertarian. Getting rid of overtime and pension abuse is libertarian. Banning no-knock raids is libertarian. Reducing bloated police department bureaucracies is libertarian.
Broader reforms that would reduce the need for police and reduce police/civilian encounters are also libertarian. Getting rid of victimless crimes, especially the drug war, and certain categories of criminal business regulation that should be handled civilly is libertarian. Getting rid of taxes that lead to black markets that in turn lead to police/civilian encounters is libertarian. Abolishing laws that allow local governments to put people in jail for failure to pay civil fines is libertarian. Separating forensic science services from prosecutors' offices is libertarian. Holding prosecutors accountable for misconduct is libertarian. Finding alternatives to prison for certain categories of offenders is libertarian."
https://reason.com/2020/06/05/is-defunding-the-police-libertarian/
Who is calling for these reforms among the Al Sharpton set? Defunding the police is all the rage now.
That civilian complaint boards exist at all was the result of liberal policies implemented over conservative objections. Welcome to the dark side.
Since civilian complaint boards haven't solved the problem, what other measures have Democrats taken in the cities they run through the recent decades? Union contracts that make it harder to fire cops don't count.
Fun fact: What NYC mayor tried to get the liberal policy of civilian oversight on the complaint board in 1966, only to be successfully stymied by the mysterious Blue Wall cop thing? John Lindsay, a Republican.
Funner fact: John Lindsay was a very leftwing Republican U.S. Representative who had a voting record so liberal he was almost a pariah in the Republican Party. Did I say "almost"? Lindsay ran for President in 1972. As a Democrat.
Look who thought a single counterexample would be a brutal rebuttal... and then picked the single worst possible counterexample!
Wow, you really know New York City inside and out. Now tell us again how NYC's 24-hour transit system didn't have much to do with the coronavirus spreading, because neighboring Long Island had the same level of infection.
This time, maybe Google the Long Island Railroad first. And the bus map. And the percentage of Long Islanders who commute to the city. And the concept of suburbia.
It was supposed to be a fun fact, not an existential threat.
...and what, again, have been those other measures Lindsay and his fellow Democrats have taken?
No worries, your fact was a fun fact. Slapping you down is always fun.
Is watching the Democrat machine slap down black lives decade after decade also fun?
So that's why black voters always support Republicans, decade after decade!
If they had been voting Republican, you would be off the hook in all this. As it is, you are culpable.
Keep trying, Lindsay LowIQ, you'll eventually meander your way to the point you can pretend you were making all along.
Wow, with all the time you took for thought, research, and deliberation - that's the response you come up with?
"I can't deal with your point, so you're stupid."
"I gotted everything wrong, which must my point am be TOO smart!"
Also with a point that's way too smart to be dealt with, it's Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany:
“There’s a police union sending every child a stuffed animal, if they accidentally kill their parents at a traffic stop. You don’t see Antifa doing anything like that.”
"It's time for your medication now, Mr. Pollmonger."
"Me aren't the desperated one. Polls are all the crazy one. And you be!"
How'd you like your Bunker Bitch today, Goofus? Sending his lawyer to formally demand a public apology and retraction from CNN, because their latest poll makes Trump unhappy?
"The Doctor is considering adjusting your dosage. As you know, under current conditions he is not seeing patients in person. Therefore he would like to evaluate your progress by having a sample of your writing at this time. Please just briefly describe your current state of mind in the space under this instruction, and the Doctor will use that to determine your revised medication needs."
As a fan of comedy, I'm finally suffering the excruciating pain you keep talking about.
But not at the level of excruciating pain you felt when I explained John Lindsay to you.
"The Doctor has analyzed the evidence you submitted and he wants me to notify you that your dosage is to immediately be increased from two tablets daily to six. After taking your new dosage, the Doctor requests you regularly submit more writing samples so he can continue to monitor your progress."
I'll never understand why you're not the star writer for the Babylon Bee.
Fun Fact: Babylon is the name of a town in Long Island, New York, a place you made some clueless and very funny statements about.
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