The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
"Most courts, however, have broad discretion to impose any condition determined to be reasonably necessary to ensure the appearance of the defendant or the safety of victims, witnesses and the public."
Prohibiting a return to the environment in which the original crime manifested is relevant to the charges and certainly reasonable.
See also, "Partial Confinement", "Movement Restrictions", "Association Restrictions".
Heh, good luck seeing the "assemblies or public gatherings" upheld on review.
"The court affirms the premise that if someone throws a tear gas canister back at police, they're not allowed to go to a graduation or attend church." Overbroad much?
You: It's totally illegal for a judge to forbid arrested violent protesters from attending any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings as a condition of release.
Me: Here's how pretrial release conditions work.
You: Anyway, it's totally illegal for a judge to forbid arrested violent protesters from attending any assemblies or public gatherings as a condition of release.
You're already the world's dumbest troll, you don't have to keep shining up your trophy.
I quoted the Oregon court's language, word-for-word, and said it would not stand. You said no, it was all nice and legal. So I isolated the part of the language that is indisputably unconstitutional. In your Troll World, this meant I conveniently ignored the rest, and was in tear-streaked retreat. (You're slipping, though. You forgot to say I was "cherry-picking.")
I could further cut either "assemblies" or "public gatherings" and I'd still be correct.
Now that I've been caught bailing and scurrying, let me just say again: Heh. Good luck seeing these illegal restrictions upheld on review.
Or not. Since the Trump Gestapo has backed out of Portland, it wouldn't even require a legal challenge (or a light sneeze). The court is more likely to drop the conditions, than it is to publicly fight to justify them and lose.
Thank you for embodying the original point: that circumstantial adoration of free speech is at least as common among conservatives.
However, I do agree with you that the bargaining stage of grief can be fun.
Washington — Senator Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.
In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.
I never characterized you as being in "tear-streaked retreat." Just obvious and rapid retreat. Whether there were tears involved is entirely your secret.
I won't subject your florid, frantic "explanation" to ridicule, because science says the next stage on your agenda is depression.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
A-choo! Sorry about the light sneeze. It's just that I've been right lately, and whatever I do I just can't seem to shake it.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
I felt I must be right, but I didn't know for certain until you disagreed. That's like getting a Wonka golden ticket for being correct.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
The Portland protests remain bigger than before.
Those illegal conditions of release didn't accomplish what the dumb people who cheer them hoped they would do.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon." + "Heh, good luck seeing the 'assemblies or public gatherings' upheld on review."
Ohhh, so you haven't been trolling on purpose. It's just that no one ever taught you what the word "or" means.
You must NEVER watch Schoolhouse Rock. Their "A Noun is a Person, Place or Thing" song will break your spirit.
orconjunction \ ər, ˈȯr *a function word which indicates an alternative: yes or no; sink or swim. *used to connect two or more possibilities or alternatives. It connects words, phrases and clauses which are the same grammatical type: You may have coffee, tea, or milk.
Study hard, Beavis. And when you're feeling smarter than ever, we'll move on to some of the trickier 3-letter words.
Actual question on a college-level Logic 101 test:
Initial Position - A, B, C, and D are valid.
[something happens]
New Position - Actually, it's C and D that are valid.
Question: Does this shift in position represent an obvious and rapid retreat?
Explain what might have happened before the humiliating retreat that accounts for it. Use terms such as "can of whoop-ass" or "mic-drop" in your answer.
Speculate on the intelligence of the wuss who performed the tear-streaked retreat. Does his flight from A and B tell you anything about the likely validity of C and D?
I'll simply let you have the last word on your retreat:
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze? ... ... Heh, good luck seeing the "assemblies or public gatherings" upheld on review.
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The Left hates free speech, a continuing saga:
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
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"Pretrial release conditions, how do they work?"
"Most courts, however, have broad discretion to impose any condition determined to be reasonably necessary to ensure the appearance of the defendant or the safety of victims, witnesses and the public."
Prohibiting a return to the environment in which the original crime manifested is relevant to the charges and certainly reasonable.
See also, "Partial Confinement", "Movement Restrictions", "Association Restrictions".
But don't stop won'drin'!
Heh, good luck seeing the "assemblies or public gatherings" upheld on review.
"The court affirms the premise that if someone throws a tear gas canister back at police, they're not allowed to go to a graduation or attend church." Overbroad much?
You: It's totally illegal for a judge to forbid arrested violent protesters from attending any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings as a condition of release.
Me: Here's how pretrial release conditions work.
You: Anyway, it's totally illegal for a judge to forbid arrested violent protesters from attending any assemblies or public gatherings as a condition of release.
The bargaining stage of grief is always fun.
You're already the world's dumbest troll, you don't have to keep shining up your trophy.
I quoted the Oregon court's language, word-for-word, and said it would not stand.
You said no, it was all nice and legal.
So I isolated the part of the language that is indisputably unconstitutional.
In your Troll World, this meant I conveniently ignored the rest, and was in tear-streaked retreat. (You're slipping, though. You forgot to say I was "cherry-picking.")
I could further cut either "assemblies" or "public gatherings" and I'd still be correct.
Now that I've been caught bailing and scurrying, let me just say again: Heh. Good luck seeing these illegal restrictions upheld on review.
Or not. Since the Trump Gestapo has backed out of Portland, it wouldn't even require a legal challenge (or a light sneeze). The court is more likely to drop the conditions, than it is to publicly fight to justify them and lose.
Thank you for embodying the original point: that circumstantial adoration of free speech is at least as common among conservatives.
However, I do agree with you that the bargaining stage of grief can be fun.
Washington — Senator Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.
In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.
I never characterized you as being in "tear-streaked retreat." Just obvious and rapid retreat. Whether there were tears involved is entirely your secret.
I won't subject your florid, frantic "explanation" to ridicule, because science says the next stage on your agenda is depression.
But then comes acceptance!
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
[Sigh]...There's no use trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube...
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
A-choo!
Sorry about the light sneeze. It's just that I've been right lately, and whatever I do I just can't seem to shake it.
First it was fun to watch you try, now it's just painful.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
I felt I must be right, but I didn't know for certain until you disagreed. That's like getting a Wonka golden ticket for being correct.
I know the pain of frantically wishing you could change a past decision.
I would counsel you to just acknowledge your weakness, and move on.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
The Portland protests remain bigger than before.
Those illegal conditions of release didn't accomplish what the dumb people who cheer them hoped they would do.
There's an organization for people like you. It's called Retreaters Anonymous.
We both know I'm right.
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
We both know you were caught with your retreating pants down.
"Heh, good luck seeing the 'assemblies or public gatherings' upheld on review."
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
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"Heh, good luck seeing the 'assemblies or public gatherings' upheld on review."
Ohhh, so you haven't been trolling on purpose. It's just that no one ever taught you what the word "or" means.
"Heh, good luck seeing the 'protests or rallies' upheld on review."
You must NEVER watch Schoolhouse Rock. Their "A Noun is a Person, Place or Thing" song will break your spirit.
or conjunction
\ ər, ˈȯr
*a function word which indicates an alternative: yes or no; sink or swim.
*used to connect two or more possibilities or alternatives. It connects words, phrases and clauses which are the same grammatical type: You may have coffee, tea, or milk.
Study hard, Beavis. And when you're feeling smarter than ever, we'll move on to some of the trickier 3-letter words.
Heh, or heh heh, or heh heh heh heh.
Actual question on a college-level Logic 101 test:
Initial Position - A, B, C, and D are valid.
[something happens]
New Position - Actually, it's C and D that are valid.
Question: Does this shift in position represent an obvious and rapid retreat?
Explain what might have happened before the humiliating retreat that accounts for it. Use terms such as "can of whoop-ass" or "mic-drop" in your answer.
Speculate on the intelligence of the wuss who performed the tear-streaked retreat. Does his flight from A and B tell you anything about the likely validity of C and D?
Or. Within a direct quote. In the first post.
Tough concept.
"You may have soda, coffee, tea, or milk."
"But... the boss said there are no beverages in stock at all!"
"So which would you like, tea or milk?"
Or = and, says the troll.
"One way and another," your "bait or switch" crisis management is "above or beyond" your usual level of idiocy. "Believe it and not."
If only incoherent babbling could cover your embarrassing retreat.
Either I'm right or I'm very right. And I'm very right.
Heh, good luck seeing the "assemblies or public gatherings" upheld on review.
I'll simply let you have the last word on your retreat:
The Federal government is arresting people in Portland, and then making it a condition of their release that they "may not attend any protests, rallies, assemblies or public gatherings in the state of Oregon."
I wonder how that will hold up on a legal challenge, or even a light sneeze?
...
...
Heh, good luck seeing the "assemblies or public gatherings" upheld on review.
I'm very right.
Or I'm very, very right.
And that's that.
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