tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post2249188721222252747..comments2024-03-26T17:44:07.430-04:00Comments on Viking Pundit: All hail the EmperorErichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15911276942829790135noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-77358388670569604032014-11-24T16:31:33.014-05:002014-11-24T16:31:33.014-05:00Vike the hypotheticals you're relying on to ma...Vike the hypotheticals you're relying on to make your argument are truly scaring sounding and quite unreal. It would be fascinating to hear the justification for an executive order ending taxes. How long would it take the Supreme Court to decide on that one? <br /><br />The things he's doing right now were chosen to stay within legal bounds but still make some kind of progress on the Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-59302689469517720162014-11-24T12:37:31.338-05:002014-11-24T12:37:31.338-05:00"prosecutorial" discretion"prosecutorial" discretionEricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-35676842645131909172014-11-24T12:35:43.938-05:002014-11-24T12:35:43.938-05:00I see how this is going to go: I'm going to ci...I see how this is going to go: I'm going to cite the "Take Care" clause of the Constitution and the "faithfully execute" the law oath and you're going to respond with "darn those House Republicans."<br /><br />Some intelligent liberals (I know!) have sensed the danger at hand. Law professor Jonathan Turley has come out against this extra-Constitutional powerEricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-54828598054146537092014-11-24T12:33:39.628-05:002014-11-24T12:33:39.628-05:00On another note - this executive order can be over...On another note - this executive order can be overturned by Congress if they don't like it and by the Supreme Court if it's illegal.<br /><br />If either of these things happen it will be an easy way for the GOP to drive home the point that what he's doing is either unpopular or improper.<br /><br />But neither of these things will happen. The knowledge of this is more likely the Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-64205082333476146032014-11-24T10:10:10.491-05:002014-11-24T10:10:10.491-05:00Aaahhh...so that's where this obsession with &...Aaahhh...so that's where this obsession with 'imperial' imagery comes from. Didn't know that. Nice 'gotcha' on the prez.<br /><br />But it doesn't change anything about the question of whether or not he is overstepping his bounds.<br /><br />You dismiss political posturing as business as usual at times and then become aghast at it at other times.<br /><br />It is Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-20951749956835376492014-11-22T20:50:52.952-05:002014-11-22T20:50:52.952-05:00Here's some helpful reading:
http://www.washi...Here's some helpful reading:<br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/11/18/obamas-flip-flop-on-using-executive-action-on-illegal-immigration/<br /><br />Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911276942829790135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-45147787214698378202014-11-22T20:29:53.033-05:002014-11-22T20:29:53.033-05:00Can Nigel answer this question:
For the past year...Can Nigel answer this question:<br /><br />For the past year and as recently as a month ago, Obama said he did not have the executive authority to do the very thing he has now ordered.<br /><br />What changed?<br />Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911276942829790135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-83420517564500533022014-11-22T17:12:37.605-05:002014-11-22T17:12:37.605-05:00'Dint'. Gosh darn autocorrect.'Dint'. Gosh darn autocorrect.Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-76323563684518841972014-11-22T17:09:47.362-05:002014-11-22T17:09:47.362-05:00There are rules for both chambers as well as the P...There are rules for both chambers as well as the President. If they won't allow a vote on a compromise bill that would otherwise pass, the argument that he won't work with Congress falls apart. The rules allow him to use executive orders within certain limits. If there is something illegal he's doing it will certainly be challenged in court. Hard to understand why this executive Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-89949041024237721662014-11-22T16:28:46.535-05:002014-11-22T16:28:46.535-05:00It is an accurate statement.
To which I add: SFW?...It is an accurate statement.<br /><br />To which I add: SFW?<br /><br />The houses of Congress have their own rules about moving legislation and, for some reason, John Boehner didn't call a vote. Harry Reid didn't call the Keystone pipeline for six years.<br /><br />As they said on Hot Air: this doesn't give the President the right to invoke the "Sick and Tired" clause of Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911276942829790135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-12447239309190900322014-11-22T15:45:38.102-05:002014-11-22T15:45:38.102-05:00Cut and paste was supposed to contain the first se...Cut and paste was supposed to contain the first sentence referencing the support in the Senate.Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-21706028675201536622014-11-22T15:43:33.211-05:002014-11-22T15:43:33.211-05:00"It wasn't perfect. It was a compromise, ..."It wasn't perfect. It was a compromise, but it reflected common sense. It would have doubled the number of border patrol agents, while giving undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship if they paid a fine, started paying their taxes, and went to the back of the line. And independent experts said that it would help grow our economy and shrink our deficits.<br />Had the House of Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-82099525811513368522014-11-22T09:59:06.825-05:002014-11-22T09:59:06.825-05:00Our country is about freedom, and freedom is about...Our country is about freedom, and freedom is about choice. Well, Obama was allowing Congress to freely choose - they could enact his immigration policies in a bill, or he would do so with a wave of his hand by fiat. What could be more fair than that?<br /><br />He even went above and beyond the call of duty. Congress' ability to choose extends even <i>after</i> the wave of Obama's hand - Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-65287192739022143682014-11-22T09:45:56.283-05:002014-11-22T09:45:56.283-05:00If only Obama had similar concern for the hundreds...If only Obama had similar concern for the hundreds of bills that died without a vote in the Senate. At least, after six years, they voted on the "Save Mary Landrieu" bill.<br /><br />When Obama says "pass a bill" he means "pass a bill I want or I'll do it anyway." This is not how our Republic is supposed to work. Obama said so two months ago - what changed?<br Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911276942829790135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-59497632478726709802014-11-22T07:50:45.170-05:002014-11-22T07:50:45.170-05:00Meanwhile, I worked with Congress on a comprehensi...Meanwhile, I worked with Congress on a comprehensive fix, and last year, 68 Democrats, Republicans, and Independents came together to pass a bipartisan bill in the Senate. It wasn't perfect. It was a compromise, but it reflected common sense. It would have doubled the number of border patrol agents, while giving undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship if they paid a fine, started from the speechnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-36580889875326079082014-11-22T01:21:13.593-05:002014-11-22T01:21:13.593-05:00Spine shivers? Do you keep your copy of the Const...Spine shivers? Do you keep your copy of the Constitution in your refrigerator? <br /><br />If not, the last 222 years offer a rebuttal. Yesterday's executive order was the 13,489th by a president. <br /><br />Many previous Congresses have amended, overridden or endorsed previous presidential orders through the chilling act of "passing a bill."Brrrrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-22910210069460724112014-11-21T21:32:20.583-05:002014-11-21T21:32:20.583-05:00"And to those Members of Congress who questio..."And to those Members of Congress who question my authority to make our immigration system work better, or question the wisdom of me acting where Congress has failed, I have one answer: Pass a bill."<br /><br />This statement should send a shiver down the spine of any American who has ever read the Constitution.<br />Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911276942829790135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-11671111667236199342014-11-21T16:55:29.573-05:002014-11-21T16:55:29.573-05:00Eric needs a spam filter for the comments section....Eric needs a spam filter for the comments section...Roger Bournivalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16930002406434500054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-39923307717291614582014-11-21T13:06:10.679-05:002014-11-21T13:06:10.679-05:00Are we a nation that tolerates the hypocrisy of a ...Are we a nation that tolerates the hypocrisy of a system where workers who pick our fruit and make our beds never have a chance to get right with the law? Or are we a nation that gives them a chance to make amends, take responsibility, and give their kids a better future?<br />Are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents' arms? Or are we a nation that valuesNigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-2738174836327165772014-11-21T13:05:30.980-05:002014-11-21T13:05:30.980-05:00I know some of the critics of this action call it ...I know some of the critics of this action call it amnesty. Well, it's not. Amnesty is the immigration system we have today – millions of people who live here without paying their taxes or playing by the rules, while politicians use the issue to scare people and whip up votes at election time.<br />That's the real amnesty – leaving this broken system the way it is. Mass amnesty would be Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-50693472550925228982014-11-21T13:04:52.798-05:002014-11-21T13:04:52.798-05:00First, we'll build on our progress at the bord...First, we'll build on our progress at the border with additional resources for our law enforcement personnel so that they can stem the flow of illegal crossings, and speed the return of those who do cross over.<br />Second, I will make it easier and faster for high-skilled immigrants, graduates, and entrepreneurs to stay and contribute to our economy, as so many business leaders have proposedNigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-32951167851203711612014-11-21T13:04:02.745-05:002014-11-21T13:04:02.745-05:00Here you go:
My fellow Americans, tonight, I'd...Here you go:<br />My fellow Americans, tonight, I'd like to talk with you about immigration.<br />For more than 200 years, our tradition of welcoming immigrants from around the world has given us a tremendous advantage over other nations. It's kept us youthful, dynamic, and entrepreneurial. It has shaped our character as a people with limitless possibilities — people not trapped by our Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-23827263280586894762014-11-21T12:52:32.995-05:002014-11-21T12:52:32.995-05:00Nigel will slowly back away...no sudden moves...Nigel will slowly back away...no sudden moves...Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-87665153451339389642014-11-21T12:13:31.269-05:002014-11-21T12:13:31.269-05:00I missed the speech. My son had a school concert....I missed the speech. My son had a school concert.<br /><br />Did it have an appeal to "common sense" with the implicit suggestion that those opposed to Caesar were acting out of pure malice? Did it have schmaltzy stories of struggling immigrants? Did it strenuously ignore every argument about Constitutionality recently espoused by a certain former Constitutional Law professor?<br /><Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053585.post-87475139395881428222014-11-21T09:26:55.657-05:002014-11-21T09:26:55.657-05:00Right, right...the narrative...got it...
...how a...Right, right...the narrative...got it...<br /><br />...how about an analysis of the points of his speech, with the Vike's very own proposals for rational options on those points with which you disagree?<br /><br />He'll be done in a couple of years, patriot. You guys need to start reacquainting yourselves with the art of positive thinking or you'll find yourselves in a vacuum.Nigel Tufnelnoreply@blogger.com